El Capitan Verbotszeichen trotz neue Platte

[Djangoivango]

Hallo,

ich habe lange dieses Problem gegooglet und einiges selbst probiert, deshalb hier die Hoffnung das jemand helfen kann.

Mac Book Pro Mid 2012, zeigte einmal langsames rödeln beim Ausführen und Arbeiten deshalb neustart zur Abhilfe...unmittelbar bei diesem Neustart kam das ominöse Verbotszeichen und natürlich auch das Fragezeichen mit dem Systemordner.

-Keine Verbesserung nach P+R Reset, keine Möglichkeit des Targetmode zugriffs, keine Spiegelung oder Reparatur der Platte möglich mit dem Festplattendienstprogramm. Schlussfolgerung--> Platte defekt.

Neue Platte gekauft, Journaled formatiert, via Internet Reboot das System neu draufgezogen (dann auf El Capitan geupgraded), Problem bleibt bestehen...aber nicht bei jedem Neustart. Platte zeigt bei Überprüfung keine Probleme an.

Ahja, die alte Platte lässt sich via externem Adapter ganz normal bedienen Copy/Paste von allen Dateien möglich.

Hat jemand eine Idee? Hab irgendwo gelesen, dass es auch das Festplatten-Kabel sein kann...

Gruß,
Ivan

 

[KALLT]

Hast du mal einen Hardwaretest gemacht? Beim Starten die D-Taste gedrückt halten.

 

[Wuchtbrumme]

poste doch mal bitte alle SMART-Werte. Das Macbook Pro 13" Modelljahr 2012 ist bei mir berüchtigt für die Festplattenkabelprobleme.

 

[Djangoivango]

Bin noch auf der Arbeit, sobald ich Zuhause bin mache ich mal den D-Test und poste die SMART Werte...immerhin schon mal zwei Sachen an die ich nicht gedacht habe! Das wäre cool wenn es nur das Kabel wäre...

 

[MacAlzenau]

Ahja, die alte Platte lässt sich via externem Adapter ganz normal bedienen Copy/Paste von allen Dateien möglich.

Kannst du auch von dieser externen Platte starten?

 

[Djangoivango]

Anbei die SMART Werte, da scheint irgendwas nicht in O. zu sein, was auch immer das bedeutet...Das Starten von der alten Platte via Extern habe ich nicht probiert. Ich check jez mal den Neustart Hardware Test.

 

[Djangoivango]

Apple/Support - - - > 501 0D kommt nachdem ich D ausgeführt habe...

 

[Wuchtbrumme]

Bitte poste die SMART-Werte Deiner Festplatte für mich zum Kaffeesatzlesen. SMARTReporter Tryout besorgen (http://www.corecode.at/smartreporter/, das Tryout kostet kein Geld), starten, dann auf Überprüfungen, S.M.A.R.T., dann auf Fortgeschrittene Werkzeuge, dann "Attribute zeigen" in der Zeile Deiner Systemfestplatte (Du solltest lt. Deiner Angaben ja nur eine Festplatte verbunden haben). Die dann Copy&Paste hier rein. Falls Du die smartmontools (Terminal) installiert hast, so geht es auch damit (einfacher: smartctl -a disk0).

 

[Djangoivango]

smartctl 6.1 2013-03-16 r3800 [x86_64-apple-darwin12.3.0] (local build)
Copyright (C) 2002-13, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke, www.smartmontools.org

=== START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
Device Model:     TOSHIBA HDWJ110
Serial Number:    85B2C8EST
LU WWN Device Id: 5 000039 67338372b
Firmware Version: AX1P1A
User Capacity:    1,000,204,886,016 bytes [1.00 TB]
Sector Sizes:     512 bytes logical, 4096 bytes physical
Rotation Rate:    5400 rpm
Device is:        Not in smartctl database [for details use: -P showall]
ATA Version is:   ATA8-ACS (minor revision not indicated)
SATA Version is:  SATA 2.6, 3.0 Gb/s (current: 3.0 Gb/s)
Local Time is:    Wed Mar  2 20:36:22 2016 CET
SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability.
SMART support is: Enabled

=== START OF ENABLE/DISABLE COMMANDS SECTION ===
SMART Enabled.

=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED

General SMART Values:
Offline data collection status:  (0x00)    Offline data collection activity
                    was never started.
                    Auto Offline Data Collection: Disabled.
Self-test execution status:      (   0)    The previous self-test routine completed
                    without error or no self-test has ever
                    been run.
Total time to complete Offline
data collection:         (  120) seconds.
Offline data collection
capabilities:             (0x5b) SMART execute Offline immediate.
                    Auto Offline data collection on/off support.
                    Suspend Offline collection upon new
                    command.
                    Offline surface scan supported.
                    Self-test supported.
                    No Conveyance Self-test supported.
                    Selective Self-test supported.
SMART capabilities:            (0x0003)    Saves SMART data before entering
                    power-saving mode.
                    Supports SMART auto save timer.
Error logging capability:        (0x01)    Error logging supported.
                    General Purpose Logging supported.
Short self-test routine
recommended polling time:     (   2) minutes.
Extended self-test routine
recommended polling time:     ( 242) minutes.
SCT capabilities:           (0x003d)    SCT Status supported.
                    SCT Error Recovery Control supported.
                    SCT Feature Control supported.
                    SCT Data Table supported.

SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 16
Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME          FLAG     VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE      UPDATED  WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
  1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate     0x000b   100   100   050    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
  2 Throughput_Performance  0x0005   100   100   050    Pre-fail  Offline      -       0
  3 Spin_Up_Time            0x0027   100   100   001    Pre-fail  Always       -       1699
  4 Start_Stop_Count        0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       61
  5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct   0x0033   100   100   050    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
  7 Seek_Error_Rate         0x000b   100   100   050    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
  8 Seek_Time_Performance   0x0005   100   100   050    Pre-fail  Offline      -       0
  9 Power_On_Hours          0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       73
10 Spin_Retry_Count        0x0033   101   100   030    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
12 Power_Cycle_Count       0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       51
191 G-Sense_Error_Rate      0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       1
192 Power-Off_Retract_Count 0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       1
193 Load_Cycle_Count        0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       4877
194 Temperature_Celsius     0x0022   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       31 (Min/Max 7/33)
196 Reallocated_Event_Count 0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
197 Current_Pending_Sector  0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
198 Offline_Uncorrectable   0x0030   100   100   000    Old_age   Offline      -       0
199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count    0x0032   200   200   000    Old_age   Always       -       2343
220 Disk_Shift              0x0002   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
222 Loaded_Hours            0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       53
223 Load_Retry_Count        0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
224 Load_Friction           0x0022   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
226 Load-in_Time            0x0026   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       265
240 Head_Flying_Hours       0x0001   100   100   001    Pre-fail  Offline      -       0

SMART Error Log Version: 1
ATA Error Count: 2345 (device log contains only the most recent five errors)
    CR = Command Register [HEX]
    FR = Features Register [HEX]
    SC = Sector Count Register [HEX]
    SN = Sector Number Register [HEX]
    CL = Cylinder Low Register [HEX]
    CH = Cylinder High Register [HEX]
    DH = Device/Head Register [HEX]
    DC = Device Command Register [HEX]
    ER = Error register [HEX]
    ST = Status register [HEX]
Powered_Up_Time is measured from power on, and printed as
DDd+hh:mm:SS.sss where DD=days, hh=hours, mm=minutes,
SS=sec, and sss=millisec. It "wraps" after 49.710 days.

Error 2345 occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 73 hours (3 days + 1 hours)
  When the command that caused the error occurred, the device was active or idle.

  After command completion occurred, registers were:
  ER ST SC SN CL CH DH
  -- -- -- -- -- -- --
  84 41 30 3f c7 43 40  Error: ICRC, ABRT at LBA = 0x0043c73f = 4441919

  Commands leading to the command that caused the error were:
  CR FR SC SN CL CH DH DC   Powered_Up_Time  Command/Feature_Name
  -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --  ----------------  --------------------
  60 30 30 10 c7 43 40 00      00:21:42.488  READ FPDMA QUEUED
  25 00 b8 b8 47 2c 40 00      00:21:42.475  READ DMA EXT
  25 00 b8 98 f6 2b 40 00      00:21:42.465  READ DMA EXT
  25 00 48 30 c5 43 40 00      00:21:42.451  READ DMA EXT
  25 00 90 c0 51 2c 40 00      00:21:42.091  READ DMA EXT

Error 2344 occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 73 hours (3 days + 1 hours)
  When the command that caused the error occurred, the device was active or idle.

  After command completion occurred, registers were:
  ER ST SC SN CL CH DH
  -- -- -- -- -- -- --
  84 41 e0 47 30 c1 40  Error: ICRC, ABRT at LBA = 0x00c13047 = 12660807

  Commands leading to the command that caused the error were:
  CR FR SC SN CL CH DH DC   Powered_Up_Time  Command/Feature_Name
  -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --  ----------------  --------------------
  60 18 e0 30 2e c1 40 00      00:19:32.757  READ FPDMA QUEUED
  60 08 d8 e8 a4 b8 40 00      00:19:32.748  READ FPDMA QUEUED
  60 38 d0 00 8d 43 40 00      00:19:32.743  READ FPDMA QUEUED
  60 08 c8 a8 a7 b8 40 00      00:19:32.735  READ FPDMA QUEUED
  60 30 c0 f8 7f 43 40 00      00:19:32.734  READ FPDMA QUEUED

Error 2343 occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 73 hours (3 days + 1 hours)
  When the command that caused the error occurred, the device was active or idle.

  After command completion occurred, registers were:
  ER ST SC SN CL CH DH
  -- -- -- -- -- -- --
  84 41 28 9f fe dd 40  Error: ICRC, ABRT at LBA = 0x00ddfe9f = 14548639

  Commands leading to the command that caused the error were:
  CR FR SC SN CL CH DH DC   Powered_Up_Time  Command/Feature_Name
  -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --  ----------------  --------------------
  60 00 28 a0 fd dd 40 00      00:14:32.760  READ FPDMA QUEUED
  60 00 20 a0 fc dd 40 00      00:14:32.760  READ FPDMA QUEUED
  60 00 18 a0 fb dd 40 00      00:14:32.760  READ FPDMA QUEUED
  60 00 10 a0 fa dd 40 00      00:14:32.760  READ FPDMA QUEUED
  60 00 08 a0 f9 dd 40 00      00:14:32.760  READ FPDMA QUEUED

Error 2342 occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 73 hours (3 days + 1 hours)
  When the command that caused the error occurred, the device was active or idle.

  After command completion occurred, registers were:
  ER ST SC SN CL CH DH
  -- -- -- -- -- -- --
  84 41 40 9f e3 dd 40  Error: ICRC, ABRT at LBA = 0x00dde39f = 14541727

  Commands leading to the command that caused the error were:
  CR FR SC SN CL CH DH DC   Powered_Up_Time  Command/Feature_Name
  -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --  ----------------  --------------------
  60 00 98 a0 ed dd 40 00      00:14:00.320  READ FPDMA QUEUED
  60 00 90 a0 ec dd 40 00      00:14:00.320  READ FPDMA QUEUED
  60 00 88 a0 eb dd 40 00      00:14:00.320  READ FPDMA QUEUED
  60 00 80 a0 ea dd 40 00      00:14:00.320  READ FPDMA QUEUED
  60 00 78 a0 e9 dd 40 00      00:14:00.320  READ FPDMA QUEUED

Error 2341 occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 73 hours (3 days + 1 hours)
  When the command that caused the error occurred, the device was active or idle.

  After command completion occurred, registers were:
  ER ST SC SN CL CH DH
  -- -- -- -- -- -- --
  84 41 a8 67 c3 65 40  Error: ICRC, ABRT at LBA = 0x0065c367 = 6669159

  Commands leading to the command that caused the error were:
  CR FR SC SN CL CH DH DC   Powered_Up_Time  Command/Feature_Name
  -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --  ----------------  --------------------
  60 10 a8 58 c3 65 40 00      00:13:59.314  READ FPDMA QUEUED
  60 10 a0 28 c3 65 40 00      00:13:59.313  READ FPDMA QUEUED
  60 10 98 08 c3 65 40 00      00:13:59.313  READ FPDMA QUEUED
  60 10 90 f8 c2 65 40 00      00:13:59.312  READ FPDMA QUEUED
  60 10 88 e8 c2 65 40 00      00:13:59.312  READ FPDMA QUEUED

SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1
No self-tests have been logged.  [To run self-tests, use: smartctl -t]


SMART Selective self-test log data structure revision number 1
SPAN  MIN_LBA  MAX_LBA  CURRENT_TEST_STATUS
    1        0        0  Not_testing
    2        0        0  Not_testing
    3        0        0  Not_testing
    4        0        0  Not_testing
    5        0        0  Not_testing
Selective self-test flags (0x0):
  After scanning selected spans, do NOT read-scan remainder of disk.
If Selective self-test is pending on power-up, resume after 0 minute delay.

 

[Wuchtbrumme]

199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count 0x0032 200 200 000 Old_age Always - 2343

da haben wir's - Kabel ziemlich sicher kaputt. Da steht eine Nummer drauf - bestell Dir das Ersatzteil und mach's selbst oder lass es tauschen.

 

[Djangoivango]

DANKE, dann hätte ich mir wohl die neue Platte sparen können wa ...Naja egal, ich bin froh das es nur das Kabel ist! Hab schon viel mit meinem alten Mac Book White gebastelt...der seit 2004 noch gut läuft :-D (Screen, Lüfter, Tastatur, Optical getauscht)...das sollte dann hier wohl kein Problem sein...THX auch an die anderen!